From georg@ii.uib.no Thu Apr 2 23:36:19 1998 Received: from trost.ii.uib.no (trost.ii.uib.no [129.177.17.125]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07713 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:36:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by trost.ii.uib.no (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/16Dec96-0903AM) id AA13672; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:36:19 +0200 Message-Id: <19980402233618.34296@ii.uib.no> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:36:18 +0200 From: Hans Georg Schaathun To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no Subject: Re: Iberian Saga / covenant / mailing list signup References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Michael Andrew Klassen on Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 11:37:10AM -0800 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 915 Lines: 19 On Wed, Mar 11, 1998 at 11:37:10AM -0800, Michael Andrew Klassen wrote: > I would like to signup to the Iberian mailing list, if you don't mind. You're welcome. I am sorry that three weeks have gone before you are subscribed, but I am not reading the list regularily for the time being, and noone mailed for my personal attention. I'll write a note about that on the web site right now... For the messages you have missed (incl. Jan Wagner wishing you welcome :-) have a look at the list archive from the web site: http://www.ii.uib.no/~georg/alt/rpg/ars/InterSaga/ I hope you can all handle GnuZip files... -- :-- Hans Georg --- student of 'Life, the Universe and Everything' (stud.oecon. stud.scient.) http://www.ii.uib.no/~georg/ '...the bird of freedom had very little patience with indecision, and when it flew away, it never returned...' Carlos Castaneda From georg@ii.uib.no Thu Apr 2 23:43:37 1998 Received: from trost.ii.uib.no (trost.ii.uib.no [129.177.17.125]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07965 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:43:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by trost.ii.uib.no (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/16Dec96-0903AM) id AA13653; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:43:37 +0200 Message-Id: <19980402234336.55133@ii.uib.no> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 23:43:36 +0200 From: Hans Georg Schaathun To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no Subject: Re: long time no see... References: <199804020845.KAA13341@eik.ii.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 In-Reply-To: <199804020845.KAA13341@eik.ii.uib.no>; from Jan Wagner on Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 10:55:32AM +0100 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 642 Lines: 14 On Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 10:55:32AM +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > Since everyone of us is producing scenarios galore and thereby developing > sites and places, that others may tread onto, why not try to get up a more > or less coherent (mental) map of the places, so we could - if we like and > approve of it - have stories/legends about them or at least know which > places are occupied? Good idea --- all of you --- please give me a note when you are going to France... otherwise I won't bother to make anything available in English :-) :-- Hans Georg taking up the saga again, but will still not promise to read the list regularily... From jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de Sat Apr 4 09:29:30 1998 Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (pp@faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA29456 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 09:29:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804040729.JAA29456@eik.ii.uib.no> Received: from Arbeitsstation (actually NAFp1-058.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by faust27-eth.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Sat, 4 Apr 1998 09:29:24 +0000 X-Sender: jwagner@popmail.server.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 09:39:49 +0100 To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no From: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de (Jan Wagner) Subject: Site (in France) X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 2640 Lines: 43 Hello dear list people, sorry to hear you are indisposed at the moment. Just to give a goof example (being the one having brought that up) here is another site. LOcation: Southern France, foothills of the Pyrenees, SE of Mauleon Lichasse (two days from Oleron) in the Bois de Cherante. Going down the river, you get off at Navarranse and follow the Pilgrim's road westward. There is a small hospital, maintained by the Hospitallers, but there are only laymen present. The Hospital de St.Blaise will warn al pilgrims from the forests bandits and worse (though no one is specific about what the wood holds...) to the south, that have burnt the Point Noire last year. To cross the river, walk a bit upstream towards the mountains into the forest, there you can find a crossing... What's There: The forest is populated by dark fairies akin to goblins who work and are dressed as charcoalers. They have scattered settlements in the forest and sometimes catch themselves some mortals, to help increase the magic quality of their coal. The coal is sold to other faires and warms many a fairy oven or smithy...Before they came, a dwarven tribe lived in the mountain south of the forest, but they were pushed out by the dark fairies, who had sold coal to them before that. An empty dwarven city awaits - though the dwarves took most of their valuables with them, when they left, some of it remains - the dwarves may however not take kindly to thieves, being very attached (and attuned) to their belongings, they could follow those who took their things - if they somehow here of the troupe netering the city. Furthermore, the dark fairies kept some dwarves and forced them to work weapons and armour for them. There are currently about 600 fairies living scattered in the woods with five old dwarves as servants. The settlements have a fairie aura of 2 (3 at night). The city a diminishing aura of 2, going to one at places. The coal made by the dark fairies is Ignem Vis - but only as long as they continue adding humans to the process. At present, there are about20 pawns carriable coal, the other is still smoldering in the hill - taken together, all the hills will produce about 6 to 10 each year for the next five or six years, after that the charcoaling process needs new materials or it will slowly die out (about -2 pawns per year). The history is known to a former friend of the dwarves, a village fairie in Oleron (used to be called Oberon...) by the name of Gogo, who lives in an Inn called the Golden Bough (ripped directly from the Mythic Places supplement). My magi have not yet been there... Thats it for today, see you soon jan From bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Thu Apr 30 02:13:40 1998 Received: from auguste.ift.ulaval.ca (auguste.ift.ulaval.ca [132.203.114.17]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA21000 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:13:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from stbb004.ulaval.ca (stbb004.ulaval.ca [132.203.55.44]) by auguste.ift.ulaval.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16447 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804300016.UAA16447@auguste.ift.ulaval.ca> X-Sender: bouchard@auguste.ift.ulaval.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no From: Jasmin Bouchard Subject: Tribunal in 1194: version 1.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eik.ii.uib.no id CAA21000 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 8615 Lines: 202 Hi, everybody! I'm back after a long absence, with good and bad news. I'll start with the bad ones. My saga is no longer in activity. My players couldn't continue (one is moving, the other didn't have time anymore because of his work) so we decided to stop playing. The good news is that I'm still interested in playing out this Tribunal, and that I'll try to put more time in it. Now, to work... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- A short listing of the important topics to be solved. 1) Last call for the hosting covenant. If you want to do it, say so. If not, I'll begin creating it. You have one week to manifest yourself... 2) I'd like all participant to confirm their implication. This way, we'll know how many covenant are present at the Tribunal. 3) Who wants to play the Head Quaesitor? I'm already the Praeco, so it would be better if someone else does it. 4) I'm beginning to develop the magi of Barcelona. I'd like to know if anybody else is doing (or will do) the same for the other important NPC covenants like Jaferiya, Estáncia-es-Karida, and Duresca. 5) For each issue that will come up at the Tribunal, we'll need a description of what actually happened, what is reported to the Tribunal, and a description of the protagonists. I'm already doing at least two issues (books found in mundane hands & problems caused by an islamic sorcerer). Jan is doing the Panaga issue and a vis conflict. Again, tell me what you'll be doing. 6) And last but not least, timeline coordination. That will be the hardest thing to do. Maybe we should just prepare a description of the issues and how they should go, then let everyone play it when they're ready. I'd like your opinions. I await your answers. Bye! Jasmin Bouchard ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tribunal of Iberia 1194 ======================= Date : sometime in 1194 A.D. (real time about May-June) Site : still undecided (see Work To Be Done) Praeco: Matlus of Jerbiton (Barcelona, played by Jasmin) Head Q: Baruch of Guernicus (Duresca) Covenants Participating: - Amphoria (Jasmin Bouchard, Spring/Summer, 4 magi) - Barcelona (NPC, Autumn, 4 magi) - Duresca (NPC, Autumn, 7 magi) - Estáncia-es-Karida (NPC, Autumn, 8 magi) - Iturriaga (Jan Wagner, Spring, 4-7 magi) - Jaferiya (NPC, Autumn, 8 magi) - Pugilista (Joseph Zakszewski, ???, ?? magi) - ??? (Javier, ???, ?? magi) - ... (others are most welcome) Issues To Be Discussed: - Discussion about the recognition of the Iturriaga covenant as a member of the Iberian Tribunal. - Electing the representatives for the Grand Tribunal of 1195. - The Reconquista. = The activities of an islamic sorcerer, who blatantly used magic in mundane battles between the Christians and the Moors. (I was working on this one for my Saga. I'll detail it.) - A Wizard's March against Panaga for the crime of Diabolism. - Discussing the problem of Hermetic books found in mundane hands (begun in 1186, in the Amphoria Saga; a message was posted). - Conflicts and grievance between covenants (about vis sources, spying, making trouble, etc.). - Judging various transgressions of the Code. - ... (other ideas are welcome) Other Activities During the Tribunal: - The magic item contest. - Presentation of discoveries by Bonisagus magi. - Trades of books, vis, magic items, informations, tales, etc. - Certamen between rivals. - The murder of a grog or companion occurs, and have to be solved. - ... (other ideas are welcome) Work To Be Done =============== - Find or create the covenant where the Tribunal will be held. In ToH:Iberia, this place is described as (quote): "...to meet at a Covenant in the foothills of the Pyrenees. The previous Praeco lived there before he entered Final Twilight." From what I have seen so far, most of the covenant from the people in the list are in spring. If nobody from the list volunteer their covenant to play the host (I hope someone will), we will have to create it. If someone volunteer, we could ignore that bit about the former Praeco. Jan previously mentionned Paul Williams as someone who have a covenant that would fit the bill. Are you interested, Paul? Even if you do not want to participate directly, a good description of your covenant would be very helpful. Joseph also volounteered his covenant (Pugilista) for this, even though it's in a different timeline. We'll see if we can work things out. - Have a couple of additionnal covenants represented at the Tribunal. Ideally, this would be from the list. Otherwise, we will have create some. Even if we have to create them, they could be controlled by some of the people on the list, who would decide their vote (some sort of play by e-Mail game, at a more "strategic" level). Jan suggested (and I agree) that we could play the informal get together before the Tribunal and talk as NPCs to our players to get their most likely decision on some cases (or to get their vote by bribery). We decide beforehand how the NPCs vote (may be modified by bribery/begging from the players side in the informal talks). We then set up the formal proceedings and "replay" to all of our groups the final votes and events connected to them. Thus we assure continuity without having to fudge or fix. - For each NPC covenants, detail the magi present, their opinions about the issues discussed, their goals and objectives. How will they vote in various situations? What are their capabilities in case of Certamen? Also, each covenant and/or magi could have a list of things available for trade (new spells, vis, books, items, etc). We would at least need the names and basic description of the most important figures of the Tribunal, plus a couple of others. I will probably develop at least four or five magi from NPC covenants (mostly Barcelona, since I'm supposed to be the Praeco). At a guess, I would say that the total number of magi attending the Tribunal should be around 40, in about equal number Pro/Against/Neutral in regard to the Reconquista. So, anyone interested in creating some of those are welcome. Who wants to be the Head Quaesitor? - Specifics about the Reconquista. Battles fought, notable personalities involved, magical interventions, and so on. For now, I don't have much on this on, so there is a lot of work to be done. Feel free to work on it, even if you are from a different timeline. Past occurences and future battles are always a good way to spark the imagination. For exemple, one of the companions in my Saga had such an encounter with an islamic sorcerer and a djinn. The Quaesitoris have been called in, and should at least report their findings to the Tribunal. Any other such occurrence could be used when we will discuss the (touchy) subject of the Reconquista, and how the Order of Hermes should act. There should at least be a case of a Flambeau being accused of breaking the Code by using blatant magic in front of mundanes, or a Jerbiton helping the mundanes in battle. I guess there could be at least 5 problems related to the Reconquista, in addition to the general discussion about how involved the Order of Hermes should be in this situation. - For the Panaga issue, detailing some of his discovered crimes. Maybe a calendar of the various crimes he commited (and where), so we can run short stories involving him? Jan posted a good description of Panaga, and a good story idea involving him during the Tribunal. - Preparing a handful of conflicts between covenants, to be judged during the Tribunal. This could be about contested vis sources, spying on someone (mundane or magical), making trouble with mundanes near a covenant, etc. Jan said that he would have a vis source conflict ready. Anyone else is welcome to post a problem, even if they are not within the same timeline. - A formal letter for the magic items contest, from the hosting covenant, would be great if done in character. It would give the exact conditions and limits of the contest. That will of course depend on the hosting covenant. - Possibilities for some short stories during the Tribunal. Jan suggested a more detailed murder plot in his post on Panaga. From jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de Thu Apr 30 15:53:04 1998 Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (pp@faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA20081 for ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:53:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804301353.PAA20081@eik.ii.uib.no> Received: from NAFp2-020.rz.uni-frankfurt.de by faust27-eth.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:52:42 +0000 X-Sender: jwagner@popmail.server.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:57:12 +0200 To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no From: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de (Jan Wagner) Subject: Re: Tribunal in 1194: version 1.2 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 697 Lines: 21 Sorry to hear that-> >My saga is no longer in activity. My players couldn't continue (one is >moving, the other didn't have time anymore because of his work) so we >decided to stop playing. That is really good news!!! > >The good news is that I'm still interested in playing out this Tribunal, >and that I'll try to put more time in it. > >Now, to work... > > I will reply to that later, since I am busy right now. My life will be a bit less busy after taking the final exams in May, so I would be able and willing to invest more time - but nor until June. I will (or you may as well) post once more a call for participation on the ars mailing list - there are always new people there... CU Jan From Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com Fri May 1 02:26:47 1998 Received: from cubs.bose.com (bose.com [146.115.60.177]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA05518 for ; Fri, 1 May 1998 02:26:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mingus.bose.com by cubs.bose.com (8.8.7/BF.1.0) id UAA07391; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:26:07 -0400 Received: from juno.bose.com by mingus.bose.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20642; Thu, 30 Apr 98 20:26:06 EDT Received: by juno.bose.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:26:07 -0400 Message-Id: <9DDA1967DFDDD011B41300A0C95C3813C992CA@juno.bose.com> From: "Zakszewski, Joseph" To: "'georg+iberia@ii.uib.no'" Subject: RE: Tribunal in 1194: version 1.2 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 20:26:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eik.ii.uib.no id CAA05518 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 9603 Lines: 217 Hello, We here at Pugilista are stumbling. The mundane world seems to be preventing us from making any progress in our saga. The good news is that the other sagas can start to catch up, (we are stranded in 1221. Does any one have a possible way to coordinate timelines? We have already played out the shadow flambeau thread so it could be difficult to bridge the time gap. Joe Zak > -----Original Message----- > From: Jasmin Bouchard [SMTP:bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 8:16 PM > To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no > Subject: Tribunal in 1194: version 1.2 > > Hi, everybody! I'm back after a long absence, with good and bad news. > I'll start with the bad ones. > > My saga is no longer in activity. My players couldn't continue (one is > moving, the other didn't have time anymore because of his work) so we > decided to stop playing. > > The good news is that I'm still interested in playing out this Tribunal, > and that I'll try to put more time in it. > > Now, to work... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A short listing of the important topics to be solved. > > 1) Last call for the hosting covenant. If you want to do it, say so. If > not, I'll begin creating it. You have one week to manifest yourself... > > 2) I'd like all participant to confirm their implication. This way, we'll > know how many covenant are present at the Tribunal. > > 3) Who wants to play the Head Quaesitor? I'm already the Praeco, so it > would be better if someone else does it. > > 4) I'm beginning to develop the magi of Barcelona. I'd like to know if > anybody else is doing (or will do) the same for the other important > NPC covenants like Jaferiya, Estáncia-es-Karida, and Duresca. > > 5) For each issue that will come up at the Tribunal, we'll need a > description of what actually happened, what is reported to the > Tribunal, and a description of the protagonists. I'm already doing > at least two issues (books found in mundane hands & problems caused > by an islamic sorcerer). Jan is doing the Panaga issue and a vis > conflict. Again, tell me what you'll be doing. > > 6) And last but not least, timeline coordination. That will be the > hardest thing to do. Maybe we should just prepare a description of > the issues and how they should go, then let everyone play it when > they're ready. I'd like your opinions. > > I await your answers. Bye! > Jasmin Bouchard > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tribunal of Iberia 1194 > ======================= > > Date : sometime in 1194 A.D. (real time about May-June) > Site : still undecided (see Work To Be Done) > Praeco: Matlus of Jerbiton (Barcelona, played by Jasmin) > Head Q: Baruch of Guernicus (Duresca) > > > Covenants Participating: > - Amphoria (Jasmin Bouchard, Spring/Summer, 4 magi) > - Barcelona (NPC, Autumn, 4 magi) > - Duresca (NPC, Autumn, 7 magi) > - Estáncia-es-Karida (NPC, Autumn, 8 magi) > - Iturriaga (Jan Wagner, Spring, 4-7 magi) > - Jaferiya (NPC, Autumn, 8 magi) > - Pugilista (Joseph Zakszewski, ???, ?? magi) > - ??? (Javier, ???, ?? magi) > - ... (others are most welcome) > > > Issues To Be Discussed: > - Discussion about the recognition of the Iturriaga covenant as > a member of the Iberian Tribunal. > - Electing the representatives for the Grand Tribunal of 1195. > - The Reconquista. > = The activities of an islamic sorcerer, who blatantly used > magic in mundane battles between the Christians and the > Moors. (I was working on this one for my Saga. I'll detail it.) > - A Wizard's March against Panaga for the crime of Diabolism. > - Discussing the problem of Hermetic books found in mundane hands > (begun in 1186, in the Amphoria Saga; a message was posted). > - Conflicts and grievance between covenants (about vis sources, > spying, making trouble, etc.). > - Judging various transgressions of the Code. > - ... (other ideas are welcome) > > > Other Activities During the Tribunal: > - The magic item contest. > - Presentation of discoveries by Bonisagus magi. > - Trades of books, vis, magic items, informations, tales, etc. > - Certamen between rivals. > - The murder of a grog or companion occurs, and have to be solved. > - ... (other ideas are welcome) > > > Work To Be Done > =============== > - Find or create the covenant where the Tribunal will be held. In > ToH:Iberia, this place is described as (quote): "...to meet at a > Covenant in the foothills of the Pyrenees. The previous Praeco > lived there before he entered Final Twilight." > From what I have seen so far, most of the covenant from the > people in the list are in spring. If nobody from the list > volunteer their covenant to play the host (I hope someone will), > we will have to create it. If someone volunteer, we could ignore > that bit about the former Praeco. > > Jan previously mentionned Paul Williams as someone who have a > covenant that would fit the bill. Are you interested, Paul? Even > if you do not want to participate directly, a good description > of your covenant would be very helpful. > > Joseph also volounteered his covenant (Pugilista) for this, > even though it's in a different timeline. We'll see if we > can work things out. > > > - Have a couple of additionnal covenants represented at the > Tribunal. Ideally, this would be from the list. Otherwise, > we will have create some. Even if we have to create them, they > could be controlled by some of the people on the list, who would > decide their vote (some sort of play by e-Mail game, at a more > "strategic" level). > > Jan suggested (and I agree) that we could play the informal > get together before the Tribunal and talk as NPCs to our > players to get their most likely decision on some cases (or > to get their vote by bribery). We decide beforehand how the > NPCs vote (may be modified by bribery/begging from the players > side in the informal talks). > > We then set up the formal proceedings and "replay" to all of > our groups the final votes and events connected to them. Thus > we assure continuity without having to fudge or fix. > > > - For each NPC covenants, detail the magi present, their opinions > about the issues discussed, their goals and objectives. How will > they vote in various situations? What are their capabilities in > case of Certamen? Also, each covenant and/or magi could have a > list of things available for trade (new spells, vis, books, > items, etc). > > We would at least need the names and basic description of the > most important figures of the Tribunal, plus a couple of others. > I will probably develop at least four or five magi from > NPC covenants (mostly Barcelona, since I'm supposed to be the > Praeco). At a guess, I would say that the total number of magi > attending the Tribunal should be around 40, in about equal > number Pro/Against/Neutral in regard to the Reconquista. > So, anyone interested in creating some of those are welcome. > > Who wants to be the Head Quaesitor? > > > - Specifics about the Reconquista. Battles fought, notable > personalities involved, magical interventions, and so on. For > now, I don't have much on this on, so there is a lot of work to > be done. Feel free to work on it, even if you are from a > different timeline. Past occurences and future battles are always > a good way to spark the imagination. > > For exemple, one of the companions in my Saga had such an > encounter with an islamic sorcerer and a djinn. The Quaesitoris > have been called in, and should at least report their findings > to the Tribunal. > > Any other such occurrence could be used when we will discuss > the (touchy) subject of the Reconquista, and how the Order of > Hermes should act. > > There should at least be a case of a Flambeau being accused of > breaking the Code by using blatant magic in front of mundanes, > or a Jerbiton helping the mundanes in battle. I guess there > could be at least 5 problems related to the Reconquista, in > addition to the general discussion about how involved the > Order of Hermes should be in this situation. > > > - For the Panaga issue, detailing some of his discovered crimes. > Maybe a calendar of the various crimes he commited (and where), > so we can run short stories involving him? > > Jan posted a good description of Panaga, and a good story idea > involving him during the Tribunal. > > > - Preparing a handful of conflicts between covenants, to be judged > during the Tribunal. This could be about contested vis sources, > spying on someone (mundane or magical), making trouble with > mundanes near a covenant, etc. > Jan said that he would have a vis source conflict ready. Anyone > else is welcome to post a problem, even if they are not within > the same timeline. > > > - A formal letter for the magic items contest, from the hosting > covenant, would be great if done in character. It would give the > exact conditions and limits of the contest. That will of course > depend on the hosting covenant. > > > - Possibilities for some short stories during the Tribunal. Jan > suggested a more detailed murder plot in his post on Panaga. From jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de Sat May 9 10:50:30 1998 Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (pp@faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02933 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 10:50:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199805090850.KAA02933@eik.ii.uib.no> Received: from NAFp2-047.rz.uni-frankfurt.de by faust27-eth.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Sat, 9 May 1998 10:50:22 +0000 X-Sender: jwagner@popmail.server.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 10:55:35 +0200 To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no From: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de (Jan Wagner) Subject: Prospectus Logs #6: Tribunal 1214 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 29931 Lines: 620 Some good ideas in here for our little scheme... Jan >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Of Shadow Flambeau, the battles between Reconquista and Roman, and a | >| possible peace between Arabic sorcers and Hermetic magi. Also, deals, | >| broken promises, bribes, truth, and lies. A panoply of magi. In short, | >| all of the usual ingredients of an Iberian Tribunal. | >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >The Named Magi of Iberia: > >Baruch of Quaesitor Head Quaesitor of Iberia >Matlus of Jerbiton Praeco of Iberia > >Farusca of Jerbiton Leader of Barcelona (Eric Fulton) >Carles of Jerbiton Member of Barcelona >Franc Severel of Jerbiton Member of Barcelona >Matlus of Jerbiton Member of Barcelona > >Baruch of Quaesitor First of Duresca >Haubero of Quaesitor Seventh of Duresca >Maria of Quaesitor Second of Duresca >Takibon of Quaesitor Eighth of Duresca > >Terril Adan Ex. Misc. Leader of Estancia-es-Karida (Dave Woo) >Alvar Dawla of Criamon Member of Estancia-es-Karida > >Fatuus of Tytalus Leader of Hamus Acerbus (Dave Pickering) > >Mortis of Flambeau Leader of Interritus (Bill Filios) >Gloras of Bonisagus Member of Interritus > >Ferrilynna of Flambeau Leader of Plateau (Chris Van Horn) >Ansalek of Jerbiton Magus of Plateau >Antonius of Mercere Member of Plateau >Generarus of Verditius Member of Plateau > >Aubrin of Merinita Leader of Prospectus Locus (Shannon Appel) >Albus of Tytalus Magus of Prospectus Locus (Shannon Appel) >Catorse of Quaesitor Magus of Prospectus Locus (Kevin Wong) >Docilli of Bonisagus Magus of Prospectus Locus (Eric Rowe) >Drake of Bjornaer Magus of Prospectus Locus >Fabricarius of Verditius Magus of Prospectus Locus (Chris Van Horn) >Forticulus of Flambeau Magus of Prospectus Locus >Lorum of Merinita Magus of Prospectus Locus (Bill Filios) >Risus of Criamon Magus of Prospectus Locus (Dave Woo) >Viator of Jerbiton Magus of Prospectus Locus (Dave Pickering) >Xanti Ex. Misc. Magus of Prospectus Locus (John Tomasetti) > >Asadel of Tremere Leader of Sader (Eric Rowe) >Durbo of Bonisagus Magus of Sader > >Xurxo of Jerbiton Leader of Victrix (Kevin Wong) >Casius of Merinita Member of Victrix > >Borico Ex. Misc. Independent Magus >Intentio of Flambeau Independent Magus >Miguel of Jerbiton Independent Magus > >Gamemaster: Shannon Appel > >Guest Author: Kevin Wong (Personal Log of Xurxo of covenant Victrix, > Catorse's Personal Log) > > - * - > > The Council Records > as recorded by Lucindia the Seneschal > June 1, 1214 > >In attendence: Albus, Aubrin, Catorse, Docilli, Drake, Fabricarious, >Forticulus, Lorum, Risus, Viator, and Xanti; also myself, Lucindia the >Seneschal. > >Quorum was achieved and Aubrin called the meeting to order as elder. > >Aubrin requested the sigils of the other magi of Prospectus Locus and >was given them. Prospectus Locus holds 11 sigils for the Tribunal of >1214. > >Points of Debate: > >* AUBRIN asked how the Council should vote on the issue of the Shadow >Flambeau. It was suggested that we vote with the majority, but if our >sigils made the difference we vote against the Shadow Flambeau. In >addition it was decided that if anti-Shadow Flambeau legislation was >introduced we would suggest the added incentive of a reward, where >each covenant put forth between 5 and 10 pawns of vis for each Shadow >Flambeau head. > >* AUBRIN asked how the Council should vote on Reconquista-Roman >issues. It was determined that we would generally stay neutral, but >offer to sell use of our sigils for vis. > >* AUBRIN brought up Docilli's suggestion that we should champion an >issue. Three issues were put forth: Hermetic olympics, a neutral >Tribunal location, and renaming the Order of Hermes. Each issue was >voted down. It was determined that Prospectus Locus needed to rebuild >its power base before it could truly champion issues at Tribunal. > >With all points of information and debate completed the council was >concluded. In two weeks time the majority of the magi of Prospectus >Locus will be leaving for Tribunal. > > - * - > > From The Tribunals of Hermes > edited by Augusta of Mercere > First Published January 1, 1214 > >IBERIA: LAND OF DEADLY DISSENT > >Iberia is a land of tragedy, for its Hermetic inhabitants have allowed >themselves to be torn apart by the lowly concerns of mundanes. We >should be above them, but the magi of Iberia prove countless times >that they are no better than their non-gifted fellows. The main >conflict of Iberia is the battle between the Moslems and the >Christians, and it is along those lines that the magi of Hermes have >allied themselves. > >The Roman covenants are those allied with the Moslems. They first >formally declared their allegiance after the Flambeau atrocities of >1118. The term "Roman" arises from the covenant of Estancia-es-Karida's >belief that it is the Moslems who are the true heirs to the culture of >the Roman Empire, not the Holy Roman Empire At their height, from >1207-1209, there were four Roman covenants. Now there are two. > >The Reconquista covenants are those allied with the Christians, or at >the least allied against the Moslems. Some of these allegiances are >ancient, but the term did not come into common usage until the Roman >covenants began to declare themselves. For a few moments in 1207 there >were five Reconquista covenants. Now there are three. > >The neutral covenants are those that try to stay above the fray, each >for their own reasons. Some have minor alliances with either the >Christians or the Moslems. There are currently four neutral covenants. > >Times grow dark in the Iberia Tribunal as the Shadow Flambeau continue >to ravage the land. We may only hope that this disaster turns the >covenants of Iberia away from their dangerous bickering, before it is >too late. > >** THE RECONQUISTA COVENANTS > >INTERRITUS > >Founded 975. Proclaimed Reconquista 1119. Leader: Mortis of >Flambeau. Members: 9. House Affiliation: Flambeau, Tremere, Tytalus. >Location: northeastern Aragon, in the foothills of the Pyrennes. > >Originally formed as an adjunct to Val-negra, Interritus has long been >a bastion of Flambeau within Iberia. Its members participated in the >Flambeau atrocities of 1118, and when the covenants of Iberia began to >choose sides Interritus was the first to name itself Reconquista. As >the wars in Iberia began to flare Tytalus and Tremere flocked to >Interritus. Toward the end of the twelfth century Interritus was at >the height of its powers. The Praeco of Iberia was a member of the >covenant and its power continued to wax. A series of disasters caused >Interritus to fall: the death of the Praeco; the disturbance of a >magical regio beneath Interritus' very foundations; and an emigration >of members to Jaferiya. In 1214 Interritus is still powerful--at least >in part because the current Praeco still holds tribunals there--but it >may never again reach the height it knew in the past. > >Jaferiya (disbanded) > >Founded 1014. Proclaimed Reconquista 1140. Disbanded 1207. Leader: >Rasus of Flambeau. Members: 5 members of Jaferiya are rumored to still >live, among them Rasus. House Affiliation: Flambeau. Location: eastern >Portugal. > >Although initially founded on the southern border of Leon, Jaferiya >was not extremely active in the Reconquista until the coming of a >magus named Rasus in 1135. Rasus is a demagogue who convinced many >others to join the covenant under his banner. There were 19 members of >Jaferiya at its height. Unfortunately Rasus bore a dark secret--he was >also a diabolist--and his downfall was also the downfall of Jaferiya. >They were discovered in 1207, the covenant was disbanded, and the >remaining 8 members were Wizard Marched. They became the Shadow >Flambeau that have so plagued Iberia in the last seven years. To this >date three Shadow Flambeau have been slain and the remaining five are >still at large. All told they have slain between one and two score >magi. > >Pello (destroyed) > >Founded 1015. Proclaimed Reconquista 1145. Destroyed 1213. Members: 2 >members survive, Gloras of Bonisagus at Interritus and Xanti Ex. Misc >at Prospectus Locus. House Affiliation: Bonisagus, Ex. Misc., >Flambeau. Location: western Navarre, in Basque lands. > >Although originally founded by Jerbiton members of Estancia-es-Karida, >they quickly lost power in the covenant. The Jerbiton welcomed Basque >shamans into their covenant and then found they had insufficient >political clout to keep those shamans from inviting Flambeau in as >well. The Basque knew the bitter taste of invasion, and so were happy >to unite with Christians against the new Moslem enemy. Thus Pello >became a Reconquista covenant. In its last decades of life Pello was >oddly sundered, between crusaders, peaceful shamans, and magical >investigators who wished to discover the secrets of shamanism. The >covenant was destroyed in 1213 by the Shadow Flambeau, proving that >the Shadow Flambeau's demons have finally turned them against their >old fellows. > >PLATEAU > >Founded 1207. Proclaimed Reconquista 1207. Leaders: Ferrilynna of >Flambeau, Ansalek of Jerbiton. Members: 9. House Affiliation: >Flambeau, Jerbiton. Location: central Iberia, in Castile. > >Plateau was originally founded for two goals: to strengthen the >Castilian crusaders then pressing southward, and to take advantage of >the magical resources of central Iberia, long left uncollected. >Plateau has been very careful to follow Hermetic laws. They do not >take part in the battles, but instead are closely allied with the king >of Castile, and subtly use magic to his benefit. In 1209 Plateau >underwent a metamorphosis when the three surviving members of >Andalusia, a destroyed Roman covenant, joined them. There was some >friction between the factions at first, but they have remarkably >joined together into a cohesive whole. The Jerbiton artists and >philosophers of Andalusia seem determined to bring Moorish culture >into Christian society, at the same time preaching the fall of the >Almohad Caliphate as inevitable. > >VICTRIX > >Founded 1140. Proclaimed Reconquista 1140. Leader: Xurxo of >Jerbiton. Members: 7. House Affiliation: Flambeau, Merinita. >Location: southern Portugal. > >A covenant with disturbingly close connections to the mundanes, >Victrix was originally founded by Xurxo of Jerbiton at the request of >Afonso I, then king of Portugal. Xurxo is a remarkably warlike >Jerbiton, and he conspired with Afonso to make Portugal great. The >covenant has moved several times as the boundaries of Portugal have >expanded, always staying on its south border. The initial magi which >Xerxo brought to Victrix were Flambeau, but a strong fay presence in >the lands have caused a number of Merinita to join the covenant as >well. Currently Victrix is second only to Interritus for its crusading >zeal, though the Merinita try to remain above these politics. > >** THE ROMAN COVENANTS > >Andalusia (destroyed) > >Founded 1207. Proclaimed Roman 1207. Destroyed 1209. Leader: Ansalek >of Jerbiton. Members 3 members of this destroyed covenant live at >Plateau, among them Ansalek. House Affiliation: Jerbiton. Location: >the mountains of Andalusia, in the Almohad Caliphate. > >Andalusia was founded to revel in the art and philosophy of Arabia. It >was the least violent of all the Roman covenants, and only wished to >be left alone--as it wished the Arabs would be left alone. Sadly >Andalusia was destroyed by the Shadow Flambeau just two years after >its foundation. Three survivors fled to Plateau, another covenant also >formed in 1207, where they were taken in and accepted as fellows by >the Reconquista magi of that place. > >ESTANCIA-ES-KARIDA > >Founded 978. Proclaimed Roman 1118. Leaders: Terril Adan Ex Misc. and >Alvar Dawla of Criamon. Members: 8, plus other magi of non-Hermetic >status. House Affiliation: Criamon, Ex. Misc. Location: southern >Moslem lands, near Granada. > >Originally a Jerbiton covenant enamored by the culture of the >Caliphate of Cordova, Estancia-Es-Karida soon became a haven for >Moslem sorcerers under the House Ex. Misc. Following the Schism War >there was an exodus of Jerbiton, who wished to form new, stabilizing >covenants elsewhere in Iberia. It was in this time that a Criamon >presence developed in Estancia-Es-Karida, as seekers searched for Sufi >wisdom. Today Estancia-Es-Karida is steadfastly Roman, but it is out >of love for Moslem culture, not love for violence. > >SADER > >Founded 711. Proclaimed Roman 1118. Leader: Asadel of Tremere. >Members: 12. House Affiliation: Bonisagus, Criamon, Tremere, a few >scattered other houses. Location: southern Spain, the rock of >Gibralter. > >Sader is a rare covenant, able to trace its origins to an era before >the Order of Hermes. It was originally founded by Berber sorcerers >with permission from the Berber chief Tarik. In the years that >followed Sader did something unprecendented for its time: it formed a >community of magicians from a variety of traditions: Visigothic, >Berber, Arabic, and Roman among them. They came together for >protection against the chaos of the time. When Flambeau sought members >for the early Order of Hermes, Sader was quick to join. Today Sader >continues to be accepting of a variety of cultures but it fights >fiercely for the Moors, knowing that unless something is done they >will be swept from Iberia forever. The Tremere of Sader are some of >the most powerful politicians of the Tribunal. Sader has also become >home to Criamon studying the mysteries of the Sufi and a Bonisagus who >investigate the inter-relations of Sader's many ancient magics. > >** THE NEUTRAL COVENANTS > >BARCELONA > >Founded 1014. Leader: Farusca of Jerbiton. Other Notable Members: >Matlus of Jerbiton, Praeco of Iberia. Members: 5. House Affiliation: >Jerbiton. Location: northeast Aragon-Catalonia, in the city of >Barcelona. > >Barcelona has always been a non-traditional covenant. It was founded >by former members of Estancia-es-Karida mainly to gain Hermetic >jurisdiction over the city. It is said that its members only rarely >congregate, instead pursuing mercantile and other mundane interests in >the city. Despite the fact that the Praeco of Iberia is a member of >Barcelona, Tribunals are not held there. Instead these meetings occur >in nearby Interritus. The main concerns of Barcelona seem to be >mundane knowledge, mundane power, and privacy. > >DURESCA > >Founded 917. Leader: Baruch of Quaesitor, also Head Quaesitor of >Iberia. Members: 8. House Affiliation: Quaesitor. Location: northwest >Leon, near Santiago de Compestela. > >In the years after its foundation, Duresca was a small covenant. This >all changed in 937 with the discovery of the Duresca scrolls. A large >group of Quaesitors was sent to investigate the scrolls, and in the >half century that followed they took over the covenant. Today Duresca >is the center of Hermetic law in the Iberian Tribunal, and a summons >to that place can strike fear to the heart of even the bravest magus >of Hermes. Although mostly Traditional, younger members of Duresca >have been allowed to consider Transitionalist thoughts. > >HAMUS ACERBUS > >Founded 1107. Leader: Fatuus of Tytalus. Members: 5. House >Affiliation: Ex. Misc, Tytalus. Location: islands east of Iberia. > >A private covenant that remains aloof of the affairs of Iberia. The >covenant is reputed to have been founded upon a font of ancient magic, >but this is a secret that they guard fiercely. Rumors claim that >certain acts of piracy may be traced to Hamus Acerbus, but such rumors >have never been verified. If they are true Hamus Acerbus is >sufficiently subtle that it poses no threat to the Order by these >acts. > >PROSPECTUS LOCUS > >Founded 1141. Proclaimed Roman 1144. Proclaimed Neutral 1213. Leader: >Aubrin of Merinita. Members: 12. House Affiliation: none; members are >from 10 different houses, with all but Mercere and Tremere accounted >for. Location: southeast Aragon-Catalonia, in the Ebro river delta. > >After its foundation Prospectus Locus quickly fell in with the Roman >covenants. Prospectus Locus' members advocated Moslem superiority at >Tribunal, and according to rumor even fought for them--of all of the >Roman covenants, it is said, Prospectus Locus was the most active on >the Moslem battlefield. In these early days the covenant was >affiliated with Flambeau and Tytalus. Disaster struck the covenant in >1212 when over half of its members were killed at Las Navas de Tolosa. >Since that time the covenant has been very accepting of young magi. In >addition they have openly announced their disassociation from the >Roman covenants. The future of Prospectus Locus is unknown and unwrit. > > - * - > > Matlus' Scribings > The Notebook of the Praeco > June 21, 1214 > >Our meeting gathering for Jerbiton is complete and I do not know >whether to feel hope or despair for the Tribunal. I will opt decide >upon the former, for I could not bear the latter. There were ten of us >at attending the meeting. Two coven heads leaders and also a Praeco >me, a powerful combination. There was a new face too also, one Viator, >of the reborn resurrected Prospectus Locus. > >We talked about unity, for it is my only hope desire that I may leave >a unified Tribunal behind me. But the old break fracture was there, >for while Farusca whole-heartedly endorsed agreed with my plan, Xurxo >was less positive, and I should not have been surprised for he leads a >Reconquista covenant. > >Finally, though, we came to a decision determination. Farusca will >spearhead lead legislation against the Shadow Flambeau. Xurxo will >stand remain at her side, and they will find a Roman leader to do so >as well. In this way manner, with Roman, Reconquista, and Neutral >standing side by side by side, I hope pray we may set an example for >the entire Tribunal to follow. > > - * - > > Genererarus' Burnt Notes > Second Day of Tribunal > >Ferrilyna will be pleased. Fabricarious, the new Verditius of >Prospectus Locus, has agreed to make magic items for Plateau in >exchange for vis. He must be provided with a want list. The >Reconquista marches on. > > - * - > > Albus' Dialogues > June 22, 1214 > Mid Morning > >I understand now what my pater meant when he said, "The Tribunal floor >is a most glorious battlefield". I have watched Aubrin with envy this >last day. He holds power on this battlefield while I have none. He is >quiet and unimposing. He allows others to approach him. It is proper >given the status of our covenant. All the same I am sure he makes >progress for our covenant. He smiles--even to his enemies--and nods >his head. Then I can see his lips forming the word, "but...." > >Yesterday evening I attended my first house meeting as a magus. There >are seven Tytalus in Iberia including myself. We were all at the >meeting. We talked of war. Of peace. Of challenges. Of successes. Of >failures. I was most impressed by a magus named Fatuus. He is the >leader of Hamus Acerbus. A pirate too from what I hear. He has a great >charisma. A self-confident sense of pride. He answers to no one. > >Fatuus spoke words that reminded me of my pater. He said that we must >choose our battles. That by unifying our Tribunal we can face an even >greater challenge--the entire empire of the Arabs. His words require >thought. I think I agree but some of the other Tytalus did not. Still, >Fatuus is nearly a hundred. Such age does not come without wisdom. He >may very well be the oldest living Tytalus. Like Flambeau we are a >young house. > >In a few short hours the voting begins. At midday. I am sure the >battles will really begin then. Someday I will be in the midst of >it. In Aubrin's place. Or Fatuus'. Today I will watch. And learn. > > - * - > > Aubrin's Memoirs > June 22, 1214 > >This is my third Tribunal since I have become the leader of Prospectus >Locus, the third Tribunal since Isabel died, and somehow it seems >hollow. > > blowing in the wind > at the mercy of the sea > a boat without oars > >Asadel was the one who confronted me with this fact, though the >feeling had already been growing within my heart. He derided me for >leaving the Roman faction, said that I should not let myself be pushed >around my "younglings." He does not understand the need for individual >respect, irrespective of age--I think no Tremere does--but he is right >when he says we must take a stand. I shall not allow our neutral state >of affairs to remain seven years hence. Now it might have been a >necessity, for despite our sigils we are weak, but in seven years that >will have changed. > >I can not say the last day has been without success, for I convinced >Terril Adan to give me a small amount of vis, so I could vote Roman, >and I talked to many people about issues of relevence to both >Prospectus Locus and the Roman covenants. Victrix had grown wary of >our agreement last year, and offered to give me an excellent Aegis of >the Hearth in exchange for the vote they owed us. After extracting a >promise to help if we seemed personally in danger I agreed, and I >think it will be for the best. We still owe Victrix some future >service--Hamus Acerbus too for that matter, for I hold a vote from >them too--but I consider the Aegis book worth as much as a possibly >irrelevent vote, perhaps more. > >Barcelona and Interritus are bickering, and so are Estancia-es-Karida >and Plateau, and in both cases I have promised to help my friends. >Still, I offered the kindest words I could to their opponents, for >Isabel always taught me that is the best policy. I was surprised when >Catorse approached me to tell my of a legal case pending against >Haubero of Quaesitor. He stated the Durescan was innocent, and I at >once began to spread the word. Early this morning, when a magus I had >not yet spoken to told me of Haubero and asked that I vote innocent >for him, I knew my job was complete. > >The voting is about to start, and we shall soon see how everything >plays out. I have sensed great hatred for the Shadow Flambeau, but I >fear it is not enough to keep our Tribunal together, for the old >Reconquista-Roman cleavages have begun to appear again. > > - * - > > Excerpts from the Peripheral Code of Iberia > as determined by the Tribunal of 1214 > and officially issued to the covenants of Iberia > with commentary by Antonius of Mercere > >IB-1353-BAR-08. Freedom of Supernatural Information Act. All >officially recognized covenants of Iberia shall open their records on >supernatural encounters to all magi offering reasonable requests. > > This was a proposal that was put forth by Victrix, apparently at the > request of the Merinita at that Covenant. As it was originally > stated it only applied to records regarding faerie encounters, but > by suggestion of the Tribunal it was expanded to include all > supernatural encounters. The issue passed 77-0. > > Duresca has stated that supernatural encounters are those involving > faeries, demons, angels, spirits, and other magical creatures. It > most specifically does not include magi of any sort. The reasonable > request clause was added by Duresca. Any requests which do not put > undue or unfair burden upon covenants should be considered reasonable. > > It should be noted that this law places no requirement upon > covenants to keep records, but simply requires that any extant > records be made freely available if requested. > >IB-1353-BAR-09. Shadow Flambeau Extirpation Act. A strike force shall >be formed to hunt down and destroy the remaining five Shadow Flambeau. >Each covenant of Iberia shall be required to offer volunteers to join >this strike force whose years of experience total 60, to be measured >by the span of years since the swearing of the Code of Hermes. Grogs >and knights may be substituted for magi, with each grog being worth >half-a-year of experience, and each knight being worth two years of >experience, but these substitutions may not be used to replace more >than 30 years of experience. If a covenant is unable or unwilling to >offer volunteers of sufficient experience they may hire magi from >beyond their covenant, but each year of experience of a hired magus is >only worth two-thirds of a year of experience for terms of meeting the >60 year requirement. The strike force will be led by the oldest magus >who is a member of the strike force. To further encourage the >destruction of the Shadow Flambeau each covenant of Iberia will offer >a reward of ten pawns of colored vis per Shadow Flambeau that is >killed, where the Shadow Flambeau are defined as the surviving members >of the eight magi listed in IB-1346-BAR-5. This reward will be split >evenly among all magi who participated in the battle where the Shadow >Flambeau or Shadow Flambeaus were killed. > > This was a complex piece of legislation. The original issue, which > simply required each covenant to offer 60 years of magus-experience, > was put forth by Barcelona. The three main modifications were > offered by Estancia-es-Karida, Hamus Acerbus, and Prospectus Locus. > Estancia-es-Karida suggested that grogs and knights could be used as > substitutes, though at different levels than in the final proposal. > Hamus Acerbus suggested that the oldest magus be the leader. > Prospectus Locus suggested the additional incentive of a reward. > Almost every covenant of Iberia contributed to the final version of > this legislation. > > The final vote on this issue was 46-31. This did not reflect a lack > of unification on the issue, for all the magi of Iberia wish the > Shadow Flambeau to be destroyed, but rather it reflects the fact > that not all magi were entirely happy with all of the clauses in the > final law. Most specifically Sader offers the heartfelt request that > no covenant take undue advantage of the rules allowing grog and > knight substitution, lest it cost the lives of magi. > > The strike force is convening immediately at Plateau. If you have > not already sent your representatives, please do so at once. Duresca > has expressed that any covenants who do not comply by August 28 will > be penalized. This deployment must also be done with the utmost > discretion. Sources confirmed to be close to the Shadow Flambeau > claim that Plateau is in very immediate danger of attack. > >IB-1353-BAR-10. Mundane Conflict Nonintervention Act. Repealed >by IB-1353-BAR-16. > > This legislation, originally suggested by Barcelona, sought to > restrict magi from any participation in mundane battles, as opposed > to current laws that only prevent overt magical intervention. After > consideration it was determined that this act was very inflammatory, > and it was repealed in favor of the more lenient IB-1353-BAR-16. > The original vote on the issue was 46-31. > >IB-1353-BAR-11. Barcelona Tax Relief Act. Each magus visiting the city >of Barcelona must pay a tax of one pawn of colored vis to the covenant >of Barcelona per year. In addition each magus must report in at the >covenant Barcelona each time they visit the city. This act repeals >IB-1178-CRA-3. > > The legislation was originally proposed by Interritus as simply an > abolishment of the Barcelona Taxation Act, IB-1178-CRA-3. In the > spirit of compromise it was reduced to its current form. The final > vote on this issue was 77-0. > > Please note that this marks a reduction of the Barcelona tax. > Previously each magus had to pawn a pawn of colored vis each time he > visited the city. Now each magus must pay only a single pawn of vis > per year, no matter how many times he visits the city. > >IB-1353-BAR-12. Barcelona Tax Reallocation Act. All tax collected as >part of IB-1353-BAR-11 shall go to the Shadow Flambeau Extirpation >strike force until such a time as the Shadow Flambeau are destroyed, >where the Shadow Flambeau are defined as the surviving members of the >eight magi defined in IB-1346-BAR-5. > > Originally suggested by Barcelona as a compromise, withdrawn after > IB-1353-BAR-11 passed, but then resubmitted by Hamus Acerbus. The > vote on this issue was 54-11. > > Duresca has stated that taxes must be given over to the leader of > the Shadow Flambeau Extirpation strike force for as long as that > strike force is in existence, and that these taxes must be paid at > least quarterly. Vis is to be used at the discretion of the leader > of the strike force, and if any remains at the end of the Shadow > Flambeau effort it is to be added to the pool of reward vis for the > last Shadow Flambeau(s) killed. > >IB-1353-BAR-13. Arabic Sorcerer Mutual Non-Agression Pact. Repealed by >IB-1353-BAR-16. > > Like IB-1353-BAR-10, this act was considered inflammatory in its > original state, particularly as it interacted with IB-1353-BAR-10. > It was repealed then reintroduced in a slightly reformed version as > IB-1353-BAR-16. This act was originally suggested by Sader. The > original vote on this act was 59-18. > >IB-1353-BAR-14. The Magus Independence Act. No new fealties shall be >sworn by magi of Iberia to mundane lords. > > This legislation was offered by Sader as a counterproposal to > earlier legislation put forth by Estancia-es-Karida. The earlier > legislation was much more politicized. It forbade magi from > associating with Christian lords. The legislation that was actually > passed extends to all Mundane lords, and has no effect upon current > fealties. This act passed 50-27. > > Duresca clarifies that no current fealties (specifically those > of Plateau, Prospectus Locus, and Victrix) are affected. They may > From jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de Sat May 9 10:50:47 1998 Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (pp@faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by eik.ii.uib.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02976 for ; Sat, 9 May 1998 10:50:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199805090850.KAA02976@eik.ii.uib.no> Received: from NAFp2-047.rz.uni-frankfurt.de by faust27-eth.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Sat, 9 May 1998 10:50:29 +0000 X-Sender: jwagner@popmail.server.uni-frankfurt.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 10:55:42 +0200 To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no From: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de (Jan Wagner) Subject: Prospectus Logs #6: Tribunal 1214 X-Listprocessor: procmail with procmailrc of 97-07-14 by georg@ii.uib.no Precedence: list X-List-Expansion: jwagner@stud.uni-frankfurt.de maklasse@sfu.ca chilok@worldnet.att.net philljas@ENGR.ORST.EDU rcocking@gsc.NRCan.gc.ca Joseph_Zakszewski@bose.com cd-crom@dir.etsit.upm.es bouchard@ift.ulaval.ca Reply-To: georg+iberia@ii.uib.no X-Loop: georg@ii.uib.no Status: RO Content-Length: 29836 Lines: 587 > even be resworn to new lords when the old lords pass away. This act > only forbids new swearings of fealty where there are none currently. > It is most likely to affect new covenants, or covenants newly > seeking fealty, but it could also affect a covenant that currently > swears fealty if that covenant decided to withdraw their fealty for > a time. It also prevents any covenants currently swearing fealty > from expanding upon their oath. > >IB-1353-BAR-15. The Hermetic Magic Protection Act. Non-hermetic magi >may not taught be Hermetic magic unless they first swear to the Code >of Hermes. > > This issue was suggested by Plateau, though in a different form. It > originally sought to utterly forbid the teaching of Hermetic magic > to non-Hermetic mages. The Head Quaesitor was able to suggest a > compromise by referring to a similar act that was put forth in > Novgorod (NO-1339-OUC-07). The compromise seems a very acceptable > one, because it clearly delineates when steps will be taken against > non-hermetic magi. The issue passed 77-0. > >IB-1353-BAR-16. Arabic Sorcerer Mutual Non-Agression Pact and Mundane >Conflict Nonintervention Act. This act shall form a pact between the >Hermetic magi of the Iberian Tribunal and Arabic sorcerers of the >Almohad Caliphate that shall go into effect at such a time as 50 >Arabic sorcerers have agreed to it. All signatories of this act shall >agree to the following conditions: No magus shall interfere in any >mundane battle that is more than twenty miles from his domicile unless >a magus is already interfering on the battle on the other side. No >magus shall harm another signatory of this act. > > This proposal is a combination of two other proposals, originally > suggested by Barcelona and Sader, as noted above. It passed 49-15. > > Duresca has stated that mundane battles are only those between > mundane forces, and thus this act has no bearing, for example, upon > a mundane force attacking a faerie forest. Duresca has also stated > that it plans to take a hard line on what interference in a battle > means, and that it will be determined mainly by intent. Do not try > to interfere in a mundane battle more than twenty miles from your > covenant or domicile in any way, direct or indirect, or you will be > in violation of this act. > > In regard to the clause giving permission to interfere in a battle > if there is already a magus on the other side, Duresca wishes to > state first that this is no way changes the restrictions against > overt use of magic, and second that the first magus interfering in a > battle is clearly either a non-signatory of this act or a violator. > Arabic violators of this act should no longer be offered the > protection granted by this act. > > - * - > > What I Saw > Unofficial Notes on the 1214 Tribunal > by Antonius of Mercere > >By this time you should already have received the official additions >to the Peripher Code of Iberia, along with my own commentary. What >follows is my totally unofficial view of the Tribunal, which tries to >describe the atmosphere to those of you who did not attend, as well as >to discuss those issue which did not pass. > >As usual the Tribunal unofficially began on June 21. By this time most >magi had congregated, and shortly thereafter the house meetings >began. I still haven't seen the official count, but I estimate >somewhere between 50 and 60 magi showed. I hope the rest of you were >deep in extremely important studies, because Tribunals are vital for >our order. > >House meetings were held for all houses except Bjornaer, Ex. Misc., >and Mercere. None of the three Bjornaer of Iberia attended. (Where were >you guys?) The Ex. Misc choose not to hold a house meeting. I was the >only Mercere in attendence. > >Early meetings were frantic, as usual. I checked the buzz and >discovered that the primary topics of discussion were the Shadow >Flambeau and the old Reconquista / Roman conflicts. Sadly the latter >seems to have really returned in full force after being quiet in >1207. I was surprised to hear the Barcelona tax, Andalusia's old vis, >and also the fate of a Quaesitor named Haubero being bandied about a >lot as well. There's no telling what exactly's going to emerge at >Tribunal time, and that's half the fun of the game. > >The official opening of the Tribunal was at dusk on June 22, again as >normal. You've already heard about what suceeded and has been entered >into our Peripheral Code. So that you're up on what's up, here's what >failed, and a few more comments on what succeeded. > >IB-1353-BAR-08, -09, and -10 were the first three issues brought >forth. It was pretty clear to me that the Praeco led things off >easily, to try and develop a feeling of unity in the Tribunal. I was >pretty surprised -08 passed without problem because Iberia magi are so >often protective of their privacy. -10 had no real heat associated >with it when it went through. That didn't develop until -13 was >discussed. > >The fourth issue brought forth concerned the vis in the land once >controlled by Andalusia. As you no doubt recall Andalusia was >destroyed in 1209. Three magi survived and joined, much to everyone's >surprise, the Reconquista covenant of Plateau. The covenant of >Andalusia was officially disbanded by Duresca in 1209, after all >members were either confirmed dead or had joined Plateau. Thus their >claim to the vis within 20 miles of old Andalusia expired. > >Plateau was trying to push forward an intitiative that would allow >them to have rights to Andalusia's vis. Many covenants were upset at >Plateau trying to double their vis collection range, but there was >much sympathy for Andalusia as well. In the end the issue failed >19-45. Afterward a watered-down version of the proposal was put forth >which clearly stated that the vis would only go the survivors of >Andalusia, not Plateau as a whole. This also failed, but the vote was >32-45. > >IB-1353-BAR-11 and -12 were discussed next. They were relatively calm >debates, and a spirit of compromise ruled. > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| "I owe you an inconvenient event." | >| -Mortis of Interritus | >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >The seventh issue discussed regarded the location of the Tribunal. >They are, of course, traditionally held at the home of the Praeco, but >in recent years the Praeco, a member of Barcelona, has occasionally >resided at Interritus so that he may hold the Tribunals there without >dissent. This has unfortunately opened up whole can of worms. > >Four different proposals were offered. Interritus asked that Tribunals >be permanently held at Interritus. Barcelona asked that Tribunals >float around the covenants of Iberia in a regular manner. Sader asked >that Tribunals never be held at Interritus. (This seems to be part of >an unfortunate growing antipathy between Interritus and Sader that we >may only hope is righted quickly.) Hamus Acerbus asked that Tribunals >be held at neutral location. The Praeco managed to squish these issues >into one vote by simply asking the Tribunal if they wished to hold >Tribunals in a non-traditional location. The answer was no, with a >vote of 27-50. > >The eighth issue discussed was IB-1353-BAR-13. It was at this point >that open, nearly violent, discord broke out at the Tribunal. The >issue was a very simple one, and many of us were surprised by the >anger that it caused. It only suggested a pact of peace between us and >the Arab sorcerers. However, the Reconquista covenants believed that >it combined with IB-1353-BAR-10 to create a great advantage for the >Moors. I doubt such was the intent, and the damage had already been >done by -10. > >The ninth issue discussed was an addition to our Peripheral Code that >would read, "I will not molest Arabic sorcerers, lest their vengeance >fall upon my sodalis." It was suggested by Sader. It seemed >superfluous in light of the non-agression pact, and truly marked the >continuation of our pointless Reconquista / Roman bickering. It failed >38-39. > >The tenth issue discussed was an act I have already mentioned in my >official commentary. It was the act requiring that all magi withdraw >all future relations with Christian lords. This was suggested by >Estancia-es-Karida, and the reason given was that these associations >the attention of demons. Discussion was violent and voting was >tense. Several people talked about invalidating the entire >Tribunal. The vote originally passed 46-31, but then word got around >that there was almost no chance of the Tribunal being invalidated in >whole, even if this act was passed. The vote then failed 35-42, with >Interritus providing the swing. > >IB-1353-BAR-14 was next discussed. It was a much more acceptable >alternative. > >At that point the Head Quaesitor was recognized, and he brought >forward three cases, as noted in my official records of the >hearings. The case against Terril Adan in particular served to >increase the discord of the Tribunal even more. By now thought of the >Shadow Flambeau was almost gone, and the old rivalries had been >clearly delineated once more. > > - * - > > Asadel's Analyses - 06/25/14 > >How is it that whenever seven years pass, whenever the span between >Tribunals is crossed, I forget? How do I forget that this Tribunal is >so full of imbeciles? And those who are not morons, they are spineless >lapdogs, who need to be taken firmly in hand, and shown what is >right. Every seven years it is the same, but still I forget. > >We are three days into the Tribunal now. It is nearly done. Some >remaining scant issues exist: the Quaesitors' useless trials, and a >few spiteful proposals put forth by Ferrilynna; we shall see how she >likes not being able to practice her religion in her own covenant, but >that is a matter for tomorrow. This has been my first real opportunity >to write, and I must gather my impressions while they are still clear >in my mind. > >Calefacto's death has left AUBRIN spineless. His covenant is larger >and so more powerful than ever before, but he plays games for paltry >vis and books. I will bring him back into the fold by begging for help >on behalf of Estancia-es-Karida. > >FERRILYNNA seeks to use the destruction of the Shadow Flambeau to >snatch power. Though she is grasping, she retreats when attacked. She >has been put in her place. When Terril Adan sends magi to collect the >former vis of Andalusia my Tremere will be there to certamen any who >try and steal it from them. > >MORTIS is infinitely more dangerous than I had thought. Where did he >find a brain? His attempt to grasp control of the Tribunal was >startling. He must be watched carefully in the future. For now I may >only build on his plotting by taking the next Tribunal for my own. > > - * - > > A Beginner's Guide to Hermetic Law > by Arstileus of Quaesitor > >Hermetic Law is a simple thing that has grown complex through 400 >years of decisions and precendents. Many young magi feel overwhelmed >when they are called upon by the Head Quaesitor of their Tribunal to >decide the fate of one of their fellows. What follows is a short >description of the main types of crimes and punishments. Specific >sections discuss degrees of crime (High and Low), immediacy of >punishment, and what exactly to do at Tribunal. > >DEGREES OF CRIME: HIGH VERSUS LOW > >There are two types of crime for Hermetic magi, High and Low. > >High Crimes are specific violations of the Code of Hermes to which >each of us swears. The main High Crimes are: depriving a member of the >Order of his magical power; unjustly slaying a member of the Order; >violating the decision of a Tribunal; endangering the Order through >interference with mortals; dealing with demons; endangering the Order >by molesting faeries; and scrying on members of the Order of Hermes or >into their affairs. If a magus is found guilty of a High Crime the >only punishments are death or destruction of the magus' gift. > >Low Crimes are violations of the peripheral code. This is a complex >set of interpretations of the code, Quaesitor rulings, and Grand >Tribunal decisions. Some Tribunals have what have been termed >Peripheral Peripheral Codes, which consist of rulings made at >individual Tribunals. Every High Crime has an equivalent Low Crime, >except for the crimes of slaying a magus or destroying his gift. For >example the High Crime of molesting faeries is equivalent to the Low >Crime of interfering with faeries. The difference is a matter of >degree. > >Punishment for a Low Crime is determined by a Quaesitor or magi at a >Tribunal. It should be based upon precedent, and in general match the >rule "an eye for an eye". Punishment for a Low Crime may never be >death of destruction of a magus' gift. The Head Quaesitor of a >Tribunal has the right to reject any punishment which he feels is >inappropriate. > >IMMEDIACY OF PUNISHMENT > >When the peripheral code was first written all punishment of magi was >done at Tribunals. The infrequency of Tribunals, the size of the >Order, and the danger inherent in certain criminals have all caused >this to change. Quaesitors see crimes as falling into three >categories, each requiring judgement and sentencing at different >times. > >Dangerous Infractions are those which could cause "immediate and >considerable danger to the Order as a whole, or to its individual >members". They are always High Crimes. Quaesitors may take immediate >action or allow others to do so by calling a Wizard's March. Any such >actions must be affirmed at the next Tribunal. > >Lesser Infractions are small problems, the exact boundary for such a >violation being determined by a Quaesitor. Usually they have sentences >of no more than a year of service (or equivalent Vis). They are always >Low Crimes. Quaesitors may take immediate action, judging and >sentencing the guilty magus. A magus may appeal the decision of a >Lesser Infraction at a Tribunal, but a Tribunal will rarely hear a >trivial case that the Quaesitor was correct in judging on the spot. > >Greater Infractions are larger problems, the exact boundary for such a >violation being determined by a Quaesitor. They may be Low Crimes or >High Crimes. In general any Crime with a potential sentence of a year >or more of service (or equivalent vis) is judged a Greater >Infraction. Such crimes are presented at Tribunal by the High >Quaesitor; guilt and sentence are determined by majority vote of the >Tribunal, though the Head Quaesitor may reject any punishment which he >feels is inappropriate. > >WHAT TO DO AT TRIBUNAL > >Some time during Tribunal the Praeco will call upon the Head Quaesitor >to present cases. The Head Quaesitor will fully examine each case in >order. > >First, the Head Quaesitor will describe the magus, the crime, and the >circumstances. > >Second, the Head Quasitor will allow the magus to speak. > >Third, the Head Quaesitor will allow debate, to be moderated by the >Praeco. > >Fourth, the Head Quaesitor will explain the specific violations you >will be voting on. A Quaesitor will often offer several, similar >violations, to be voted on from the most to least serious (for >example, a Quaesitor may announce he will be putting forward the >violations of "molesting fay", a High Crime, and "interfering with >fay", a Low Crime, in that order. If a majority of magi vote guilty >for a violation, the magus is found guilty and sentencing proceeds. >Otherwise the next less serious violation is voted on, until all >violations have been voted upon, in which case the magus is found not >guilty by reason of innocence. > >Fifth, the Head Quaesitor will suggest a punishment. In general the >Quaesitor understands the code best, and his punishment should be >accepted. A vote will be taken, and if a majority agree, the >punishment is undertaken, and the case is closed. Otherwise anyone may >suggest a new punishment, forcing a new vote. If no punishment can be >determined in a reasonable amount of time (determined by the Praeco), >the magus is found not guilty by reason of irreconcible Tribunal >differences. In this case the magus may be retried at a future >Tribunal. > >Remember that the Head Quaesitor has spent decades researching the >code. His suggestions for specific violation and punishment should be >respected. By doing so you will be helping the Order and your Tribunal >by upholding 400 years of proud tradition. > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| "Flambeau years are like dog years; multiply them by three." | >| -on the age of magi | >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > - * - > > Excerpts from the Legal Journals of Iberia > as recorded at the Tribunal of 1214 > and officially issued to the covenants of Iberia > with commentary by Antonius of Mercere > >Case #BAR-371. In Brief: The defendent Borico Ex. Misc, an independent >magus, was accused of the High Crime of "dealing with demons" and the >Low Crimes of "aiding and abetting dealing with demons" and "aiding >and abetting a wizard-marched magus." The defendent was found not >guilty of the first count, guilty of the second count, and the third >count was waved. His punishment is to spend seven years of service >working about infernal powers. This shall include joining the Shadow >Flambeau Extirpation strike force. For each Shadow Flambeau that >Borico personally kills he will be forgiven of one year of service, >and if he personally slays all five Shadow Flambeau he shall be >forgiven of all seven years of service. > > Borico's precise crime was to give aid and shelter to the Shadow > Flambeau, though he knew who and what they were. He claimed to do so > only due to severe coercion, and this was confirmed by Frosty Breath > of the Spoken Lie. However, Duresca stated clearly that, no matter > what the circumstances, aiding the Shadow Flambeau was unacceptable. > The Tribunal took this to heart and found Borico guilty of the second > of the three crimes he was charged with. The failed vote of the High > Crime was 23-52. The successful vote of the first Low Crime was 41-36. > The second Low Crime was not voted on, after Borico was found guilty > of the first. The vote on sentencing was 70-7. > > My Hermetic law tomes included the following notes: > > DEALING WITH DEMONS usually applies to any magus who directly and > with foreknowledge and intent deals with demons. It is a High > Crime. The only penalty is death. > > AIDING AND ABETTING DEALING WITH DEMONS usually applies to any magus > who knowingly aids another to deal with demons. It is a Low > Crime. The typical penalty is 7 years of service working against > demons or equivalent vis payment (being 15 Vim per year, 10 Form per > year, or 5 Technique per year). > > AIDING AND ABETTING A WIZARD-MARCHED MAGUS usually applies to any > magus who aids a magus who he knows has been Wizard-marched. It is a > Low Crime. The Typical penalty is 1 year of service searching for > the wizard-marched magus or equivalent vis payment (being 15 Vim per > year, 10 Form per year, or 5 Technique per year). > >Case #BAR-372. In brief, the defendent Terril Adan Ex. Misc., a magus >of Estancia-es-Karida, was accused of the Low Crime of "interfering >with the movements and actions of magi of the Order of Hermes". The >defendent was found not guilty. > > Terril was brought to trial for harassing several Reconquista magi > who visited the lands surrounding Estancia-es-Karida. He freely > admitted that he forced his peasants to withhold food and shelter > from the visiting magi, but claimed that it was only because the > visiting magi were in turn harassing, threatening, and brutalizing > his peasants. The majority of the visiting magi submitted to Frosty > Breath of the Spoken Lie and Terril's accusations were proven. The > final vote for guilt was 11-65. > > I can only suggest that, though Terril was found not guilty, we magi > should place our good above those of mundanes, for actions like > Terril's will not held the unity of our Tribunal. As a side note > Terril has promised not to do it again. > > My Hermetic law tomes included the following notes: > > INTERFERING WITH THE MOVEMENTS AND ACTIONS OF MAGI OF THE ORDER OF > HERMES usually applies to magi who restrict the movements of other > magi in unlawful ways. It is frequently lawful within your own > covenant and sometimes lawful within your covenant's 20 mile radius, > but precedents are very mixed. It is a Low Crime. The typical > penalty is half-a-year's service, or equivalent vis payment (being 8 > Vim, 5 Form, or 3 Technique). > >Case #BAR-373. In brief, the defendent Haubero of Quaesitor, a magus >of Duresca, was accused of the Low Crime of "a Quaesitor ignoring >infractions of the Code". He was found not guilty. > > This case hearkened back to certain cases from 1207, where several > Reconquista magi were found guilty of using magic overtly on mundane > battlefields. It was revealed that Haubero had been on some of those > battlefields. Since he refused to submit to Frosty Breath of the > Spoken Lie he was presumed guilty. Remarkably, Reconquista and Roman > covenants alike voted for Haubero's innocence, with the final vote > for guilt being 26-50. > > This was a rare opportunity to see inside the minds of Quaesitors. > Such cases are normally dealt with entirely internal to Duresca. It > was only by Haubero's insistence that he was given a public trial--a > fact he is no doubt quite glad for. > > My Hermetic law tomes included the following notes: > > A QUAESITOR IGNORING INFRACTIONS OF THE CODE usually applies to a > member of House Guernicus who does not report a crime he sees, > typically for political, magical, or monetary gain. It is almost > always an internal House issue, not discussed at Tribunal, and thus > there are almost no precedents. It is a Low Crime. The penalty > relates to the crimes viewed. > > - * - > > What I Saw (cont.) > Unofficial Notes on the 1214 Tribunal > by Antonius of Mercere > >To a certain extent the Tribunal was tainted by discord from the >start. When the Praeco was first preparing the agenda, bickering began >to break out between Interritus, Plateau, and Sader. It was the >typical Reconquista / Roman line, something that has not grown fresher >with age. Toward the end of the agenda setting, it was like >one-up-manship gone terribly wrong, as each covenant tried to propose >something even worse for his opposition. The Praeco kept these issues >all at the end of the agenda, in the hope that matters of import could >be dealt with first. The last three issues I will discuss all came >from this group of proposals. I hope all the magi of Iberia will see >that nothing useful was gained by this bickering. > >The eleventh proposal should have been an act proposed by Plateau that >suggested be stringent investigation and punishment of all those who >associated with Arabic mages. At the Praeco's suggestion Plateau >withdrew it. > >The twelfth proposal was also put forth by Plateau. It was the >original form of IB-1353-BAR-15. Totally forbidding teaching magic to >non-hermetics would have caused great discord, but the Head Quaesitor >was able to effect a compromise. > >The thirteenth issued discussed was a proposal put forward by Sader >which sought to forbid all religious rites within covenants. It was >directed at Plateau, whose leader is a fervant Christian. The vote >failed 19-38. > >If the Tribunal had ended here it probably would have been disastrous, >for the Reconquista covenants were filled with a great anger, and talk >of Wizard's War was filling the air. The Praeco correctly realized >this, and he asked that -10 and -13 be revisited. The resulting >compromise, IB-1353-BAR-16 was much more acceptable to all concerned. > >That was pretty much the end of the Tribunal, folks. A group of magi >gathered almost immediately to head toward Plateau. Since rumors say >the Shadow Flambeau will strike there, it seems the best place to wait >for them. Please remind your covenant leader to send his forces if he >has not already. The future of the Iberian Tribunal hangs in the >balance, for if the Shadow Flambeau win, there may be no Reconquistas >and no Romans to war again in seven years. > > - * - > > Personal Log of Xurxo of covenant Victrix > June 27, 1214 > >I fear I have done a great disservice to my covenant and our cause >during this last Tribunal. Due to my negligence, Victrix will >certainly have to relocate and our power may start to wane. > >The Tribunal started well. I met with the others of House >Jerbiton. Praeco Matlus requested that our House work to repair the >rift that has developed in Iberia between the Reconquista and Roman >covenants. Farusca of Barcelona and Viator of Prospectus Locus readily >agreed. I also concurred since I felt that the Christians had turned >the tide against the Moors and I knew that the Roman faction had lost >Prospectus Locus. It was decided that we will propose an expedition >against the Shadow Flambeau to unite the factions to a common cause. > >The next day I met with my fellow Reconquista leaders. I had not >spoken directly with them for some time and had not realized how far >apart we had become. Ferrilynna of Plateau wanted our support against >Estancia-es-Karida; at times she lost her temper and even yelled at >me. Mortis of Interritus wanted all future Tribunals to be held at >Interritus. Both kept trying to convince me of how their initiatives >would help the Reconquista cause. I thought their initiatives had no >hope of passing and would only polarize the other covenants against >us. But I did not say anything and let my younger brethren set the >agenda of our faction. > >Having come with almost no agenda I went around championing my fellow >covenant member Casius' initiative. Fortunately, everyone approved of >his initiative and it was one of the few that passed unanimously. > >On another matter, I learned that Haubero of Duresca would be charged >with some minor violations of the Code. Haubero is the Reconquista's >only ally among the Quaesitori. Although I knew he was guilty I lied >to Terril Adan of Estancia-es-Karida to get his support in acquiting >Haubero. To try to make amends, I used the sigils of Victrix to help >aquit Terril when it was his turn to be charged. > >In the end, I had to vote against some of my Reconquista associates' >initiatives. Ferrilynna snapped under the pressure and started >threatening everyone. Mortis declared that the others were out to >destroy our faction and he almost came to blows with Asadel of >Sader. I did not help the others, for I was shocked at their >actions. In the end I felt I had to distance my Victrix from the other >two covenants. > >So, with the Tribunal now over, we of Victrix will have to decide what >to do next. I fear our problems must be solved with our own resources, >and perhaps I have isolated us from any help. > > - * - > > Catorse's Personal Log > June 28 - The Year of Our Lord 1214 > >My first Tribunal was intidimating in its grandeur and disappointing >in its baseness. Virtually all of the mages of the Tribunal were >present, a sight I had never seen before. I made some new aquaintances >and renewed fledging friendships. I believe the other young mages at >Prospectus Locus were also impressed. > >Unfortunately, that feeling did not last long. At the House Guernicus >meeting I was called in late and missed the first part. I was shocked >to discover that one of our own House would be charged with a >crime. After speaking with Haubero I became convinced of his >innocence. It just seemed to be a plot against a young member of our >House by the old guard. I spoke to Aubrin and asked him to vote in >Haubero's favor during the trial, to which he readily agreed. > >The actual voting was perhaps the most blatant display that I have >ever witnessed of how fractured the Order truly is. Interritus and >Plateau in turn ranted and threatened the others. Sader attacked >anyone who dared to offend them. Victrix seemed to be at odds with >their own allies. There were many arguments and almost a few fights. >Surprisingly there were very few Certamens--perhaps everyone was too >busy yelling to remember. > >So, with the Tribunal now over we can get back and continue with our >lives. Prospectus Locus was never threatened by any of the other >covenants as Aubrin steered a neutral course for our covenant. I look >forward to speaking with Cecilia again. > > - * - > > Matlus' Scribings > The Notebook of the Praeco > June 28, 1214 > >And so another Tribunal year is done. I suspect fear it will be my >last. The twilight calls beckons strongly though only I can hear its >whisper. How much good I have done given I can not say. There is a >hope for unity with the war hunt for the Shadow Flambeau but in this >fragile egg there are cracks growing for the struggle fight between >Reconquista and Roman has reemerged again. I have done my best and if >it is Xurxo who leads counsels in seven years I can only wish him >luck. > >Now I feel my obligations promises have been fulfilled and I can turn >to the other matter of import. The books records of all the covenants >have been opened concerning the supernatural. I will shall investigate >them. I can only hope pray that somewhere in those tomes is the answer >secret to the final Enigma. I must shall know, though in truth the >answer will shall be mine soon enough no matter what I do. It beckons. >The future. >